2023 NFL Running Back Rankings, Draft Season Debates, and the Unexpected Intersection of Football and Self-grooming
Join the Dudes, Trent, Phill, Jordan, and Seth for their running back rankings. We're looking at everything - from the players' age to Jalen Hurts s potential impact on Eagle's goal-line carries. So, whether you're here for the laughs, the personal insights, or just some solid football talk, we've got something for you in this episode.
Lastly, we're rolling up our sleeves and diving into the nitty-gritty of the upcoming draft season. We've got our eyes on the top 32 names and are all geared up to debate every possible angle, including the surprisingly low rank of James Conner and the potential of players like Miles Sanders and DeAndre Swift. So, whether you're all about the stats or just here for the good old football banter, we've got you covered.
The Dudes help you Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams ALL YEAR LONG!
Connect with the Show
Visit the web
https://www.thefantasyfootballdudes.com/
Follow us on socials at
https://twitter.com/TFFDudes(the easiest way to follow our Dudesletter)
https://www.instagram.com/tffdudes/
Dad Moves
https://tffdudes.substack.com
Join our Discord! Dude Nation is the best place to reach your Dudes!
Watch the Dudes on Youtube at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2JAx3YD3P-OJRiaqA7wSQw
Questions for the show
tffdudes@gmail.com
Follow us on socials at
https://twitter.com/TFFDudes(easiest way to follow our Dudesletter)
Sponsors
Trophy Smack
Manscaped
For 20% off enter: Dudes20
Underdog
Promo Code: Dudes
and they will match you up to $100
Hey dudes, with draft season around the corner, I want to talk about trophy smack. You've probably heard about trophy smack from us by now. Maybe you've heard about them from Shark Tank. Anyhow, if you've heard about them, check them out. They got trophies, belts, rings, draft boards, losers' awards. Draft season is literally around the corner. We have a guy in the studio today who's actually drafting this weekend, trent. I feel like if you don't have a loser award, you're not doing fantasy correct. Would you agree with that? Maybe life in general? Yep, agreed. So for 15% off, check out trophiesmackcom forward. Slash dudes and take your fantasy football league to the next level. This is the fantasy football dudes podcast.
Speaker 3:What is up, my dudes? This is Trent with the fantasy football dudes podcast. I am joined by Phil Jordan and Seth. We're recording a little earlier this week, so before we get in we really don't have a weekend recap. But uh, yeah, hey, big guy, Phil, so you got a haircut. How you doing man.
Speaker 2:You're so dumb. Hey, buddy, it's always. I was dying when you said that last week.
Speaker 1:No big guy, wasn't it? No, I said buddy, I said how you doing buddy. Hey buddy, how you doing it? We're not. I can't believe you didn't talk about this right away. You always say we're the hottest pod. We're not officially the hottest pod.
Speaker 4:There's an air conditioning in this building. We are in a dude in.
Speaker 3:It's close to done. We got electricity.
Speaker 1:We got lights, we got some fresh paint, we have AC in here. Last time you kind of jumped the gun on us a little bit and it was about 9,000.
Speaker 3:We had an extension cord that was plugging, you know, and I don't know that had to have been not OSHA regulations.
Speaker 4:No, like if I spilled the water, we probably all would have died.
Speaker 5:Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3:That day I've been the hottest it's ever been recording, maybe, but it's supposed to be pretty hot.
Speaker 1:It's supposed to be like 116 tomorrow, I think.
Speaker 3:I think it's going to be a garage episode. Last year that was so hot. It was so hot.
Speaker 1:But, we got, how hot was it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, trent had his feet in an ice.
Speaker 1:Hey, it was like that episode of the office where Kevin puts his feet in the ice.
Speaker 3:I brought up Phil's haircut. Okay, guys, 110 on Saturday.
Speaker 1:What would you call that? Would you call that a quiff 111 on?
Speaker 3:I'm not talking about the style of his hair Seth. We had a listener in the pod. Take a picture of Phil giving his haircut and he's on his phone in the barber chair?
Speaker 1:Oh no no, no, Okay. Yeah, Is this Seth? Were you in there when they were talking about this? Were you in the office?
Speaker 3:No, he wasn't. No, I wasn't Okay.
Speaker 1:Apparently, this got passed around Trent's office. It did. The problem is that I yeah, you know I just have too much flair for people, I guess. But do you guys think it's against, like basically against man code to text? Well, first of all, I was working. I was responding to a client email while I was in my barber chair.
Speaker 4:Could you respond to that email?
Speaker 2:10 minutes later 10 minutes later.
Speaker 5:Absolutely it was. It was a pressing.
Speaker 1:It was something pressing that I needed to handle and I said why not do it better today?
Speaker 3:I just have to scoot a little bit towards the camera. Trent is coaxing at you so he's coaxing you over
Speaker 4:at his drawer. I'm used to it.
Speaker 3:He's all been there. Anyways, phil, the thing is everyone agrees that's like against code, the code of man, to just be on your phone. You talk to your barber?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do, and honestly, I really like my barber. I got a great barber. I have, I have yeah, I have a great barber. Okay, so hear me out on this. I actually have two barbers, so I have, I have good buddies that I would consider both at the shop and I don't want to show any preference, so I kind of go to both of them. I feel like that's fair. Right, it's fair.
Speaker 4:Just one do a better job than the other, though.
Speaker 1:No, I think they're similar, but I think I have alliances with both, so I think I have to represent both, and they both give really great haircuts. So I'm like you know what I'm going to go to both. Both of them are great guys. I like talking with both. The guy who took this photo of me caught me in like a second of weakness where I needed to do something for my livelihood, and he takes a photo of me. But the main thing that I was embarrassed about is that he was literally right in front of me and so I looked out the window to see if he was outside taking the photo. And then I looked around him and he was sitting right in front of me. So it was kind of. It was kind of an embarrassing moment there. But he then shared that photo with Trent who knows why and then they got passed around their office again.
Speaker 3:Who knows why it's just well, I was like the last guy to see it in the office too. I'm like what are you guys looking at? They're like look at this guy, he's texting while he's getting his haircut and I'm like that's Phil.
Speaker 1:Like I was like this is Diva the week worthy and you have a couple of coinances. I mean, I have a couple of coins is at your workplace. I definitely wouldn't call any of them friends, but people that I know decently well.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, maybe, maybe that should be a poll. Is it okay to text while getting your haircut? I don't want to put your picture out there on Twitter because I think you're just going to get annihilated with that picture, have you just? They're texting because it's like my favorite thing to do at the barber shop is to talk shop with all the guys. Like I love talking to the whole barber shop.
Speaker 1:They're praying for you to start, yeah.
Speaker 3:Maybe they should text me or whatever. But yeah, I love going to the barber shop. It's just all guys in there talking about stuff and here's Phil. You know just uh, I don't know if you were playing candy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I went to my. The problem is no, it was after hours, but I still had to respond to. The problem Is that are you Wait?
Speaker 4:you've been lying this once again no, no no, oh, I smoke. So I actually need to resolve it.
Speaker 2:That didn't require any word.
Speaker 1:Here's what I'm saying, though If you take a look at my haircut which I would say you know, have a good head of hair. I don't want to brag too much, I'm not an attention seeker, I've said that before on the pod and you take a look at Trent's, the guy basically shaves his head, so he must go in there just for the conversation.
Speaker 3:This guy's hurting for conversation.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, like he definitely does not have any outward.
Speaker 3:The people in the barber shop are hurting for conversation. All these millennials just text on their phones at the barber shop. Now they don't even have no conversation.
Speaker 5:Like it is sad Did you like, pull it out of your pocket Like or do you not even it's over?
Speaker 3:his cape. So do you know.
Speaker 5:I see that, but like I always just keep my phone in my pocket while I'm in the barber chair, so it's hard to get, you can't?
Speaker 3:really get your phone out, jordan, that is very normal. Yeah, so here's what happened.
Speaker 5:You didn't have it in your pocket. Where was it at?
Speaker 1:What happens in the barber shop In case there's of an emergency. I keep my phone outside of my pocket and I sit it right on one of my thighs.
Speaker 3:Wait a second, just for new listeners. We are doing our quarterback rankings today. We're just running back, running back, running back, running back.
Speaker 2:Just the heads up for new listeners Just for new listeners.
Speaker 1:This guy normally doesn't run this far.
Speaker 3:Well, I just don't want these guys to be like what are they getting in the running backs? This guy's talking about a haircut. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, we've gone on.
Speaker 1:No, this is not even actually that good of a story I was texting while I was getting a good story. It's not a good story at all, and I would agree with you, Jordan. It's like why would you bring this up? You know, I'm just a normal guy.
Speaker 5:Getting a haircut and a story with like two minutes and it's taking 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:No, I agree, we can move on here. I mean, we can get into running back.
Speaker 3:When you're like a small town hero, because this podcast if you can't give people the time of day to like just talk to them because you're on your phone doing who knows what. Like that's just like. It's just a bad look for the pod.
Speaker 1:So at what level is it okay to pull your phone out in the barber shop If someone calls you more than once?
Speaker 5:unless you're expecting like a serious call.
Speaker 3:Anyone you call, you're like, hey, I was in the barber chair. They're like, oh yeah, don't answer your phone while you're getting your haircut.
Speaker 1:That'd be the worst thing you could ever do I actually have answered the phone when I was getting my haircut, only because my barber's no Trent, and so they were just, you know, talking trash to him, dragging his name through the dirt. Let's just move on from this.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, this is the dumbest story of all time. Well, here's the deal, phil. Don't do dumb stuff. You don't want to be called out. I think you were just praying the whole way home like that. No one on the pod saw that picture.
Speaker 1:No, I knew he was going to get sent around. The guy who sent it is just an absolute menace. I think he's a listener of the pod. I'm sorry. I was going to say I love him. That's not accurate. He's a good guy for the most part. I would say that's it. Sure, Okay, he's sort of related to the pod.
Speaker 3:Yes, his brother's helped with the pod.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his brother's been a producer before in the shop, yeah, so friend of the pod, but anything else you guys want to recap on your week.
Speaker 3:Seth you doing? Okay, you go to the zoo or anything this week. Jordan, like what's going on here.
Speaker 1:Did you go to the zoo?
Speaker 5:twice this week. No Moe we.
Speaker 4:Sorry, Jordan. He goes once a week to feed the drafts.
Speaker 1:No one does it quite like he does Like there's like a couple months and he does what he's. Yes, there was like a month or so when the drafts are just like a deep depression is because Jordan hadn't come and visited them in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5:You guys see him and they run over. You probably been the zoo student more reason than I am.
Speaker 3:Probably I might go this weekend. You know it's Thursday, who knows? Well, you're traveling this while we're doing the pod.
Speaker 1:Really, as we're traveling Jordan's traveling this week. Do you have any plans to see the zoo up in Northern California? No plans, Okay.
Speaker 3:We should probably get the quarterback Hold on.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you.
Speaker 2:Do you know the?
Speaker 5:zoo in that area? No, okay, I'm sure there's a zoo in the area.
Speaker 3:Let's pull it up.
Speaker 1:Let's figure that out.
Speaker 3:Well, no, no, no, no. Speaking of zoos, guys, the modern man is the man who takes care of himself. Manscaping isn't just for live special occasions. It's a requirement for optimal health and superior hygiene, self-healthy self-esteem. You now have the right tools for a safe and precise grooming and hard to navigate sensitive areas, plus post-trimming products to help keep your dudes dry. Manscape is the dude's favorite place for all of our bathroom essentials. Is that what you would say, phil? Is that the right term? Bathroom essentials? Yeah, they do not have plungers I already looked but they do have some nice boxers, deodorant, body wash, whatever you need to help keep you well groomed. So go to manscapecom. Enter promo code dudes20 for 20% off your whole entire order. We really appreciate that, guys. And also we also appreciate you share this pod with a friend. Remember, don't be rude. Share the dudes. Give us a follow on Instagram and Twitter at tffdudes, give us the subscribe button on YouTube and give us the thumbs up. We always appreciate that, guys.
Speaker 1:So Phil, that was a good ad read, but you also did you hear this producer in the house and he helped keep your dudes dry. Did you hear that? Did you hear that? I heard that.
Speaker 3:Thank, you Seth Sometimes.
Speaker 1:The listeners are gonna be like rewinding 15 seconds a couple of times just to hear you read it that way.
Speaker 4:But do you have anything to say? That's the only way Trent remembers to keep them dry. Oh, he's gotta keep them dry. It's a little bit.
Speaker 1:Please read it. Please read it like that in the future, we have to try to yeah, it's like he's running out of breath and he has to breathe in and say it at the same time.
Speaker 4:Keep your dudes dry, no.
Speaker 1:It's exactly yeah, seth, that's definitely what he's doing. He's losing breath no my voice changed. He's no one has to hold their breath while talking to your voice.
Speaker 4:Your voice changed. Your voice changed. Did your dudes fall while you were?
Speaker 1:talking too. No, he was definitely breathing in. He had been holding his breath. That entire ad read and then he took a breath in. That is embarrassing. All right so this week we're gonna be going over running backs here. I think what we did last year is we went through the. I think it was the top, excuse me. Last week I think we went through the last 20 of last year's finishes. So I think that's valuable to probably go top 20. So I'm just gonna go back 20 and then go head over to one. So I'm gonna start Zeke, james Connor, kenneth Walker, travis Eatian, alvin, kamara Fornette, naje Harris, mixon Miles Sanders, ramon Dre, stevenson, jamal Williams, aaron Jones, dalvin Cook, tony Pollard, saquon Barkley, nick Chubb, derek Henry, josh Jacobs, cmc, and then, closing it out, number one, austin Eckler. So that was last year's finishers from 20 to one. Zeke was our 20 guy there. I don't know if we have him listed in the top 30.
Speaker 4:I'm trying to see if any of you guys have it there. He's not on a team.
Speaker 1:No, I know that.
Speaker 4:What's I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's not on a team, but he you will likely get picked up somewhere. I think that they were talking about potentially even bringing back to Cowboys.
Speaker 4:I thought I read some news today about it saying like why it's? You maybe should be a little bit nervous why these three guys haven't been picked.
Speaker 5:It's like they're Dalvin Cook, zeke and who else.
Speaker 4:Leonard Fornette. Yeah, cause they're all old, they're all old, so it's like I think the age for running backs is just getting younger.
Speaker 5:Dalvin Cook will be the one who will get signed out of those three. I think so.
Speaker 1:And Alvin Kamara. Just there came out something about his case. I think it's going to be he pleaded.
Speaker 5:They pled it down to a misdemeanor.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 5:But he's still subject to the NFL suspension.
Speaker 4:The NFL can do whatever they want yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but with that pleading I think they'll probably adjust how much they're going to spend.
Speaker 5:It's going to be probably a six game suspension.
Speaker 1:I would imagine so, and so I do see him here listed on some of your guys' rosters. Before we get into this, we talked about running. Oh, sorry, excuse me, we talked about quarterbacks last week. I want to give a quarterback shout out Okay, phillip Rivers, my namesake. He is expecting his 10th child. Let's clap it up for that. Holy smokes. Thank you, child Phillip Rivers 10th child.
Speaker 3:You might have played the full football team, though, right, why not go for 11?
Speaker 1:Why not go for 11? No absolutely. They say everything after three is the same. That's not accurate, but and I'm speaking from experience but maybe it will be in a couple of months I don't know what were you saying.
Speaker 5:Jordan. No, the answer is probably everything after like fives, all the same right.
Speaker 1:I honestly, we know a couple.
Speaker 4:Guys, I think it just gets harder after every one right.
Speaker 5:Well, the age gap though right, Because Phillip Rivers oldest is probably what in high school.
Speaker 3:Yeah, kids eventually help If you have 10, 10 kids.
Speaker 4:Your prior oldest is probably close to 20. My two year old, my two years, my two years, the old two year old is the oldest.
Speaker 3:right now she tries to help.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they try to try and make it worse. Yeah, so she's a little better.
Speaker 3:Case is actually the younger one, which my wife would say is better than what I do.
Speaker 5:So she's asking for diapers and your oldest is like going to get them.
Speaker 1:You're like in the cereal cabinet, like what are you doing, man? All right, let's get in this. So yeah, we talked a little bit about Alvin Camara. We have actually a list through. It looks like 32 here. Do we want to go 32 really quickly? I don't think we need to talk about that bunch a ton, but I'm happy to go.
Speaker 5:We have to talk about it because Trent has someone down there, I think you go 32 through 20.
Speaker 3:So we'll just read them off quickly, maybe 32 through 25, we can recap and then just go quick.
Speaker 1:So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to go. We'll go Trent Jordan, Seth, we're just going to read the 32 and up, and you're going 30 through 32 through 21. That makes sense.
Speaker 3:So we'll read three in the two Seth.
Speaker 4:All right, you literate little turd.
Speaker 1:All right, trent, I'm going to let you go first and then then I'll read, and then, Trent, you can. I know these guys have beef with one of your picks down there, trent, so go ahead and go. 32 to 21.
Speaker 3:Let's find my column here, okay, 32. I got Elijah Mitchell, james Conner, deandre Swift at 30., samajha P Ryan at 29. Cleo Herbert at 28. Alvin Kamara at 27. Alexander Massen at 26. Isaiah Pacheco at 25. How far am I supposed to go?
Speaker 1:You're supposed to go at stop at 21. The two one. Trent. Yeah, I know, James. I don't know how this guy is reading the query David Montgomery at 23.
Speaker 3:Javante Williams at 22 and Aaron Jones at 21. Okay.
Speaker 1:Jordy.
Speaker 5:I got AJ Dillon at 32., brian Robinson at 31., david Montgomery at 30., rashad White at 29., cleo Herbert at 28., jk Dobbins at 27., damian Pierce at 26., isaiah Pacheco at 25., alexander Madison at 24., james Cook at 23., james Conner at 22. And Javante Williams at 21.
Speaker 4:All right, it's going down from 32 to 21. I have Elijah Mitchell, james Conner, damon Pierce, maybe I have James Conner twice. I think I'm just going to put all seven. Michelle White there, I have Samajia Pirine, alexander, madison, cleo Herbert, isaiah Pacheco, james Cook, jordan Montgomery and then Aaron Jones and then Javante Williams.
Speaker 5:All right, so Jordan you.
Speaker 4:All of ours are very good.
Speaker 5:Except for Trent can you explain, john Jace, what's at 30?
Speaker 3:And even.
Speaker 5:James Conner at 31. Those are both too low.
Speaker 3:I just James Conner won.
Speaker 5:I heard you guys both have Conner low.
Speaker 3:I had Conner than what Conner won hurt me more because it was harder for me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm low, but it's just his team.
Speaker 3:I guess the volume's there, but I don't even know who the quarterback's sitting there. Like who's the? Is it Colt McCoy? Who's the quarterback going to be? We don't know.
Speaker 5:I just know he's going to get a ton of volume.
Speaker 3:And where is? How old is he? I was looking at age. A lot with these, okay.
Speaker 5:Just explain to you, Andre, what's at 30?.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm going to explain him. This is just a little bit of revenge here, you know, because I, you know. They say an elephant never forgets. I don't forget. Last year I had him at 11. Last year would you have him at Jordan? You had him at 12. No, phil had him at 12. Jordan, you had him at nine, like I, just I.
Speaker 5:And he finished it. He's got to prove me. He finished at 22. So why are you ranking him at 30?
Speaker 3:So I think he's at a better backfield now where he's going to be more stuff taken away I get.
Speaker 4:With who? Yeah, but he was hurt too last year. Who is you think?
Speaker 3:he's not going to get hurt this year. Has he ever not been hurt?
Speaker 5:So we rank Okay, but okay, who's in the backfield? Though you said he's in a better backfield. Who's in the backfield?
Speaker 3:I still think Jaylen Hertz is going to take a lot of goal line. Curious, I still think he's going to get.
Speaker 5:That isn't death. Not in the backfield, that's a quarterback, not in the backfield. No, not rushing touchshelves.
Speaker 1:What's the matter? What you know what he's talking about? No, I know what he said Rushing touchshelves matters.
Speaker 5:He said he's in a better backfield. Who's in the backfield?
Speaker 1:Sorry. He's in a situation where some carries and some carries are taken away from him. I don't Like. Who do you think is better?
Speaker 3:Miles Sanders or DeAndre Swift. You love Miles.
Speaker 5:Sanders, you're not answering my question, trent.
Speaker 3:But if Miles Sanders can have success there why can DeAndre Swift have success?
Speaker 5:there. That is a committee, Jordan. It's always a committee. Can you answer my question? Who else is in the backfield that you're so worried?
Speaker 2:about. Let me look All of them. You don't even know.
Speaker 3:I like Penny. What's his name? Rashad.
Speaker 5:Penny Kenneth Gainwell.
Speaker 3:I actually really like Penny. I like Penny, I do like.
Speaker 5:Penny Talking about someone who's gonna get hurt the guys that get hurt, the momy steps in the fall.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they have two guys that should play with Armcast, I agree.
Speaker 5:I just think it's an outrageous ranking by you.
Speaker 1:I did forget how much Jordan hates Rashad Penny.
Speaker 3:He hates Rashad Penny, he loves DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 5:He actually likes the guys I mean I'm not like. But also you saw what Miles Sanders did last year in this backfield. I don't see how DeAndre so honestly, trent, your argument almost makes it a better case for DeAndre. So because they have so many bodies, he doesn't have to be on the field. He's gonna stay healthier and they're gonna use him. The.
Speaker 1:Eagles.
Speaker 5:Offense Coordinator is way better than the Lions Offense Coordinator.
Speaker 4:They will find ways to use him. Can I say this Miles Sanders still had 12. I saw at 11 touchdowns Trent and had almost 12, 70 years.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he had his best year ever last year, but let's look at the whole time.
Speaker 5:And the Eagles had their best year in how many years and Jalen was also.
Speaker 3:Jalen hurts so high on your guys' rankings.
Speaker 4:He runs a lot of touchdowns, but Miles Sanders still had 11, Trent yeah, you're like that's still sustainable.
Speaker 3:You're acting like Hold on, hold on, you're right. You're right. Deandre Swift's gonna be a goal line running back all the time this year. That's what he's known for right Goal line touchdowns.
Speaker 4:Trent. The most rushing touchdowns by a running back was Jamal, who had what? Do you have Something's?
Speaker 3:done yeah, for whatever reason, he never got a goal line. He had 70 years.
Speaker 5:Have you ever thought that maybe the coaches in Detroit are idiots and don't know how to use DeAndre Swift? Ever crossed your mind?
Speaker 4:The next guy has 13.
Speaker 3:I know it did because I feel like they actually had a good team. Yeah, they did have a good team, but they don't know how to use DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm gonna let closing arguments happen. We're taking a little bit too long here. Trent, do you want to just?
Speaker 4:Yeah, but it's absurd to be at 30 here. It's absurd.
Speaker 5:It's a horrible ranking. Guys, draft him. Okay, is that it? I am, I am.
Speaker 1:I am.
Speaker 4:Trent any closing remarks before we go on here, no closing remarks, no closing remarks and you draft. Samajia P Ryan. Before him Trent.
Speaker 3:I think P Ryan, actually David or Kaleur Herber you were gonna draft.
Speaker 5:David, you have Montgomery eight seven.
Speaker 3:What team is Montgomery on?
Speaker 5:He's on the line. So what do they do with their running backs? Which, amir?
Speaker 3:gives yeah. Who's gonna be in the slot? Like I think Montgomery still might be a goal line guy there. That's a committee place also.
Speaker 5:So you're telling me David Montgomery is a more talented running back than DeAndre Swift?
Speaker 3:Let's do it. I think he'll have more rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 5:I will Do it.
Speaker 2:Do it, do it. Week two, week two.
Speaker 3:That's fine, all right. So are we egg betting?
Speaker 1:here Are we egg betting? Yes, we're gonna egg bet this. So let's keep track of this, jordan, I'll be a part of it too.
Speaker 4:Me and Jordan versus Trent, so Trent has to take on two eggs if he loses.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, we should probably take on all the eggs we did the year before. Are we going touchdowns or no.
Speaker 5:I will do the egg bet.
Speaker 4:No, I think we just do one. I think we need to do it. I think we need to do it. Half point, half point, fantasy points, half point. Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 5:All right, put it on there, jordan.
Speaker 1:And so can I ask you guys just one thing, just really quickly here, jordan, you have Alexander Madison not in the top 20, what is your, what's your thought process there? You're asking me, okay.
Speaker 5:Um the bet is Yandere Swift over the Andre Swiffer, David Montgomery.
Speaker 2:What was it? Was it full points?
Speaker 3:I thought I said touchdowns originally, but he did say touchdowns I mean, this is a my touchdown. I thought I said touchdowns.
Speaker 2:I thought I said if you want to put words, in my mouth.
Speaker 5:you guys are really good at that, but I never said touchdown. I said touchdown Trent this ring I offered you the bet and I never said touchdowns.
Speaker 4:This this ranking is by fantasy points, not by touchdowns which usually kind of go hand in hand Don't think, not even close. It's not even close Because you know, james Williams had 17 touchdowns and was an eighth when Echler had 13,. But also and also had way less yards but had way more receiving yard. That's not even close.
Speaker 5:He had four less touchdowns and even Montgomery's not catching any passes, yeah.
Speaker 3:You know I'm arguing with two guys that you know love Michael Thomas, so I never had Michael.
Speaker 4:Okay, what's your question?
Speaker 1:Let's talk to me a little bit about Allison Madison Jordan. Well, for the record, we all have it. Well, we all have it, we all have it. I'm just asking you, though, um.
Speaker 5:I think that I am slightly worried. They have type Chandler there who I think they drafted last year Um, who's pretty talented at North Carolina.
Speaker 3:Who's the kicker and Turner? They got to the Newark, well, whatever.
Speaker 5:I have a yes, they have him too. I think type Chandler is kind of the guy that I'm more worried about. Um, also, like it's just hard, like, honestly, running backs brutal, like it's pretty tough. It's tough Like and I'm not trying to keep going back to Andre Swift, but that's where it's like I'd like to get a guy who has more raw talent and a bunch of and a bunch of running back group Right. Like I want to take the guys who have more talent and athleticism and are on good teams with good coaches. Alex Intermasson is on a good team with good coach. I do worry, though, that they just throw the ball a ton there.
Speaker 1:You think that's, you think that's the main deal.
Speaker 5:I think they throw the ball a ton Okay.
Speaker 1:But I do like.
Speaker 5:Madison. Like he's a guy that if I'm like in an RB, like RB zero type, where I'm loaded up on wide receivers early, he's a guy that I don't mind. Like a lot of these guys I don't mind, so I kind of view them all the same.
Speaker 1:I personally feel he'll be top 18. But I don't think that's like a far cry, because again we're talking about all.
Speaker 5:These guys could really end up any way you go to him saying I'm surprised none of these guys have called me out for having JK Dobbins at 27. I can. I'm always way too.
Speaker 3:I'm always way too high on.
Speaker 5:JK Dobbins. I got always Dobbins and Swift for you, trent. What's the difference?
Speaker 3:Um, I think that they want Dobbins to be the guy. I felt like Dobbins finished the season really strong last year, like his last four games were pretty good.
Speaker 5:But it's also running back by committee with a quarterback who has rushing touchdowns. So I just don't see the difference. Like, if you want to have John Drake Swift rank that low, I think you should have JK Dobbins rank that low too.
Speaker 3:I, yeah I. Jk Dobbins is just one of those guys I've always loved, for whatever reason, I don't know, he's always been the guy I want to get.
Speaker 5:Honestly, like I just don't trust him.
Speaker 3:Where do you have him?
Speaker 5:And, honestly, like I could have him at 22. Like Connor Cook, madison Pacheco, damian Pierce, jk Dobbins they're all like. They're just not like. The margins are really fine between them. I just I worry about his health. I feel like there was a lot of. He was supposed to be healthy last year and wasn't healthy at all. Um, maybe he's finally healthy, but they still have Gus Edward today. Love, you are of the opinion the Marjax is going to have a huge bounce back here, which means lots of rushing touchdowns. Um, they have Mark Andrews and they like to use down there in the in the red zone, as they likely. I just worry about Dobbins. I worry about Dobbins quite a bit. I worry about Dobbins a lot more than Deandre Swift and I'm looking at this too.
Speaker 3:I had him at 22 last year and now I have him up to 16. I yeah, he's just a guy I've always kind of got connected with Whatever reason, I'm always like excited for maybe I'm just too excited for Raven guys in general every year, like I'm always pumped up for Mark Andrews all those guys, but maybe Mark Andrews makes more sense.
Speaker 1:Well, let's move on here.
Speaker 3:I uh, I know, we went to 21,. Right, yeah, we went to 21.
Speaker 1:So now I want to go 20 through 16, basically. So start at 20 and at 16, then we'll go 15 to 10. Does that make sense? Yeah, so let's go 20 to six. Uh, excuse me, yeah, 20 to 16. Um, we're going to go backwards here, seth, let's go with you first 20 to 16. Okay.
Speaker 4:I have Cam Acres at 20., joe Mixon at 19., travis Etn at 18., jk Dobbin at 17. And Deandre Swift at 16.
Speaker 1:Okay, jordan.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I got Aaron Jones at 20, cam Acres at 19, joe mixing at 18 and um mile centers at 17. John Jerry slipped at 16.
Speaker 3:Trent Okay At 20,. I have cam makers 19, have Joe mixing, damian Pierce at 18, travis etion at 17, jk Dobbins at 16.
Speaker 1:So one of the names that sticks out to me there is etion. Last year he ended at 17. I don't know if you want to talk to him a little bit, jordan, you actually have them the highest between these two guys. Seth, I think you have them regressing just by one spot, and then Trent, you have him ending right at 17. You don't you think this is a year Travis etion improves rather than stays, similar with that offense in Jacksonville?
Speaker 4:I don't know where. There's much to grow in this offense for him. I think he's a very good role player and I think that's just what he is in Jacksonville, where I think a lot of their games going to emphasize more passing this year and I think obviously he's going to have a good year and the Jaguars are actually a good competitor. I just think he's, I think he's just the role player there. If that makes sense he's going to be the guy. He's going to be there out. He's going to be out there probably what?
Speaker 1:75, 80% of the time you probably think, maybe even higher than that maybe more, but he's.
Speaker 4:I mean he's going to be out there to catch passes and but he's also they have to throw the ball a ton, you know, like he's not going to get the ball and hit the his back up just real quick.
Speaker 1:Tank Bigsby at number two. Uh, Jim Michael, hasty in the dearness Johnson, my boy.
Speaker 5:Um, I will say, like I would say, the one room for growth. He only had five total touchdowns last year. No receiving but on the flip side I think they did draft Snoop Connor to kind of be a little bit of a goal line back Uh but, I'm sorry. I meant take big as we, not Snoop Connor. Snoop Connor was the draft pick the year before tank Bigsby this year. Who's better than Snoop Connor? Um, yeah, and I like tank, and they drafted him fairly, fairly early too. Uh, I think the one thing that I would say would be in Travis E T N's favor. I think the Jaguars would be better this year than they were last year. They're even so we better, which means they could be up in games and where they're not throwing the ball so much, um, and where they're kind of running the ball more.
Speaker 3:Do you think E T N running ball more, but do you think E T N's going to be that guy, or do you think it's to be more of like a tank?
Speaker 5:I feel like it's hard to know, especially right now I think it's close.
Speaker 4:E T N's going to be in a lot.
Speaker 5:E T N was coming back aftera really missing his whole rookie year, so yeah, that's why I think it's we see him improve a little bit this year. Yeah, I also degree. I mean, I have my 15.
Speaker 1:So it's not like I have him that much higher and I.
Speaker 5:I kind of in a ballpark with them. I'd like to see him higher, but I also just think it's a really good offense with a lot of weapons.
Speaker 4:He's your second running back. You're happy. If he's your second, you had him at 20 last year, Jordan.
Speaker 1:So you bumped him up five spots.
Speaker 5:Um, the one guy I think we should talk about is like mixing, because we've all like, if I knew 100% that like he was the guy there, I think I'd have him higher, but I don't know that. He just he scares me.
Speaker 3:Who's the backup there?
Speaker 5:That's what I was on Cause, even like they don't have a backup is the problem, and so that's where it's like. But I'm just don't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not excited about chase.
Speaker 5:Chase Brown is someone I'm interested in.
Speaker 3:I like chase Brown, but like I'm also not like Jordan, I didn't really want to put Joe mix and even here Like I was thinking of putting them lower and I just, but you have to if he's going to be the guy I know the best offenses in the NFL but he's also a well, he's 26. I thought he was older than that, yeah.
Speaker 5:But there's just a lot of like off the field concerns Like they didn't. So I Joe Nixon's very easy.
Speaker 3:Joe Nixon could make us feel very dumb, having him where we have he's, he's that guy that like, if you're a zero RB guy like I'd be fine. Getting Joe Nixon is like my RB too, Cause you could finish top 10 for you He'll have. He'll have some spike weeks also.
Speaker 4:Can make us that one year, that one week get five touchdowns.
Speaker 5:I feel like camp makers and Joe Nixon are very similar, like they're. Just they're. I think they're going to be solid for you. Aaron Jones is I have air. You guys all have Aaron Jones ranked. You guys even have Aaron Jones ranked.
Speaker 3:I have Aaron Jones at 21.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5:You're all kind of I think the Packers are going to lead on the run quite a bit this year and in the passing game with the running backs Do you think that a?
Speaker 3:what's the backup's name there? You don't think the guy who plowed that?
Speaker 5:mask. I haven't ranked at 32.
Speaker 3:You haven't 32.
Speaker 5:No, I think I think they're going to use the running backs a lot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it's going to be both. That's kind of what, yeah.
Speaker 5:But I think Aaron Jones will use a lot in the passing game.
Speaker 3:I. I'm trying to see how old he is, right, here I'm pulling it up.
Speaker 5:Aaron Jones. I feel like he's 28, 27. Yeah, and it's kind of like.
Speaker 3:I think he's right at that verge where it's like okay, these, it seems like the wheels might start.
Speaker 2:He's 28.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so do we want to keep moving on? Is there any other guys there in that top 20 to 16?
Speaker 3:Oh, top of 15, that you're looking at, where do you have Damian Pierce Jordan. You say I'm already, I'm at 26.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm hoping.
Speaker 5:I'm hoping he gets a lot of, but here's the problem you got Devon Singletary and then they paid Devon Singletary. I really worry about him just with the Singletary thing. That's my biggest fear with him.
Speaker 3:He had a really good season last year. But, yeah, and it's just everyone's committee now, right, and that's what makes these rankings so hard. You sent a text today, Jordan, that said what do you say? 11 through 30 is really hard.
Speaker 5:I think it's a 15 through 30. 15 through 30.
Speaker 3:And I said it's more like two through 30.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so I thought, but yeah, Well, there's like it's like two through 15 or whatever, and then it's like 16 through. It's just it's hard, like they could like someone could tell me like, hey, I got Rashad Wyatt ranked 21 and I'd be like, okay, I got Clio Herbert ranked 19. I'd be like, I mean, I think it's a little high, but okay, like like I think that's why we're so. The Deioner switch one was so weird, because I feel like that's one where you could have done a lot of things in this running back rankings and then it wouldn't have shocked, I wouldn't take a like had a problem with it.
Speaker 4:But Just being 15 spots lower than me, I'm looking at PFF.
Speaker 3:Do you guys trust PFF?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the best people do.
Speaker 3:Okay, PFF has. Where is he? Deioner Swift rated below Rashad White. He's RB 26. They've Rashad White at RB 25.
Speaker 4:I was just looking at the years, so maybe me and Jordan are a little higher on the consensus.
Speaker 3:I think you guys are higher, I think I'm closer to normal than you guys are, and maybe this is a huge spot for you guys to gain ground, but For sure, I just think him being on arguably the best offense in football.
Speaker 4:I mean, we'll see about this year.
Speaker 5:I mean, okay, espn does have him at 28.
Speaker 3:So you are closer. I'm not that far off, guys.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I just disagree with it.
Speaker 3:I think, is what I don't you guys have more to gain with this ranking than what I do? I'm closer to normal than what you got. You guys are, it's true, but then again. I just I don't I took a lot of abuse for going with the in crowd is all I'm saying.
Speaker 5:I just don't use asking for some respect. Basically, I don't see the upside to like ranking Deioner to the 28 and guy like James Connor 19 and Damian Pierce at 20.
Speaker 3:What I'm telling you guys is you'll probably be able to draft them closer to where I have. You guys might reach on them.
Speaker 5:I won't reach on them if I but like I know, trent, you have a guy who like is way higher than the consensus.
Speaker 3:Probably so. You want to keep. You want to keep going.
Speaker 1:still, yeah, sorry, I was looking at something here really quick. Yeah, let's go, let's move on here, let's just go. Well, let's start this one. Seth, you want to go 15 to 11 there?
Speaker 4:Yep, I have Miles Sanders at 15., kenneth Walker at 14., ramon J Stevenson at 13., jameer Gibbs at 12 and Breece Hall at 11.
Speaker 5:We're real quick before, like ESPN, as Joe mixed in at 12 and Aaron Jones at 13. So we're all low on those guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:So it's engine, I think, because we talked about running max of crap. Shoot, it's all the same 15. I have Travis Etienne, I got Kenneth Walker at 14. Jameer Gibbs at 13. Ramon J Stevenson at 12 and Derek Henry at 11.
Speaker 3:Trent. I have Miles Sanders at 15. Josh Jacobs at 14. Kenneth Walker at 13. Ramon J Stevenson at 12 and Derek Henry at 11. As of right now, we don't know if Josh Jacobs. What's going to happen with that situation?
Speaker 5:I think you're low on him I think I'm too low because he was worried about.
Speaker 3:I don't think he's going to play as good as he did last year.
Speaker 5:I know that's like they're going to have to use him Like it's going to have to be used. It's a volume based.
Speaker 3:I think I'm not at this point right now. I had him, I think, at eight earlier today, I don't know. They said till Monday he's going to decide if he's sitting out camp. I know that's not a big deal, but I just think he's going to want some money, especially how these running backs aren't getting paid. I think you're going to have guys just be like, okay, I'm just not going to play this year. I could see that potentially happening and I think he knows too. Like hey, you guys can't throw the ball. You're going to be giving me the ball, you know, 25 times a game. Like I want some money. Like in the Raiders I don't really know if they have the money to pay a guy really want to pay him.
Speaker 4:So I I'm worried about exactly what's going to happen with this they're going to get, though they don't have him. They're not going to be competing.
Speaker 3:They kind of yeah, they have to compete if they don't have him. Yeah, so I moved him back just because of today. Hey, zeke, this is coming out on Monday.
Speaker 4:I think I cannot carry the ball 25 times this is coming out on Monday.
Speaker 3:This could totally be different and, yeah, I'm going to try to keep these rankings upgraded throughout the year and just share them with everybody. At the end of this, I'm missing on an email. You can sign up for the dudes letter at the fanciethetheballdudescom and sign up for this and I'm going to try to do my best to keep my rankings going, because I think it'll help with the starts and I think it'd be kind of cool, like every quarter of the week, every quarter of the season, we kind of check in at our ranking and see where everyone's kind of stacked up.
Speaker 1:You're right.
Speaker 4:Seth. So every quarter, like four times in the season, we check where everyone finished.
Speaker 1:So Jameer Gibbs, I mean, we can talk about him I think you have too high, like you're crazy high on Jameer.
Speaker 5:Gibbs yeah, I up Tim up a lot today, so like ESPN and I'd be curious what does PFF have on Jameer Gibbs? Espn has consensus on Jameer Gibbs at 18.
Speaker 3:Jameer Gibbs on PFF is running back 11.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:So I think we're all high on him and I think PFF rides the hype a little bit more than all these other programs. But I mean, six is high.
Speaker 5:You know who I feel really good about in this range, like if you, I think it's Ramon. Dresden is very just safe.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think consistent work. I don't know if it's 11.
Speaker 5:Is humongous, but like I feel really good, like if you had told me like you have to get a guide, you can get one guy in here that like you feel like you just can get one guy I think I'm taking Ramon Dresden Like it's upside down. How many do I think he has this year?
Speaker 4:How many do you think he had last year?
Speaker 5:He had like eight, nine, five, five, I think. I think there's room for growth there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, a thousand yards, five touchdowns.
Speaker 5:How many games did he play? He was hurt a little bit too.
Speaker 3:He missed one, two, he missed two games. He missed it and he only had 300 receiving or sorry just.
Speaker 1:I 20 receiving you finish an RB one three times.
Speaker 5:Damian Harris is not there anymore.
Speaker 1:Do you think that number goes?
Speaker 5:up. I just, I just think it's.
Speaker 3:He's very like solid, like someone will be there it's Bill Belichick, but I do like.
Speaker 5:Stephen, I don't know, I just think Bella checks like you, but it Trent, I think that narrative is getting, I think is now data narrative. Like really he had a lot of how many carry attempts that he had last year set.
Speaker 2:He's strong as the back up, by the way, 210.
Speaker 5:I'd be curious what their that market share. I think that was a 60 70% market share. Like he was the guy. And look, am I supposed to be worried about Pierre Strong?
Speaker 4:I don't think so. I wouldn't know.
Speaker 5:I mean, but preseason hero Pierre Strong, like Ty Montgomery, kept. They don't have no one behind her. Andre, I think he's very safe and I think, like he's a guy, that if I'm not, if I'm going RB zero like if you tell me he can be my RB one I actually don't feel too bad about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he Jordan. Last year he played. Someone said he was hurt. He played 17 games last year.
Speaker 5:I think there was a few games where he was a little bit. He wasn't playing every single snapper with no Damian Harris, like they didn't draft anyone, like it's his job and I don't see anyone behind them. Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I think he's in a good spot. They just say.
Speaker 5:I just feel really like he's more safe than Kenneth Walker. He's more safe than Travis Etienne. He's more safe, safe than Jameer Gibbs. He's honestly more safe than Derek Henry at this point, yeah.
Speaker 3:You don't think Jameer Gibbs is that safe and like a half point PPR with all the slot work they're talking about and stuff like that.
Speaker 5:I'm going to tell you why because you have Mr David Montgomery ranked to 23.
Speaker 3:That's why he's not like.
Speaker 5:That's why he's not safe, because what? What happens if he turns into Andre Suth last year and they give all the one yard touchdowns? David Montgomery.
Speaker 3:True, you think that? Yeah, I yeah.
Speaker 5:Because the same.
Speaker 3:They have 19 rushing chance within the 10 last year. I think they're going to throw a little bit more, but that messes up the same.
Speaker 5:The same hype they gave They've been giving you mere Gibbs is the same hype that the Andre Swift guy. He's going to work in the slot. He's going to get all this passing.
Speaker 3:True.
Speaker 5:And it didn't happen.
Speaker 3:I have a long list of lions running backs.
Speaker 5:I've been hurt by and you're going to get hurt again, probably by Jim and the next year.
Speaker 4:Trent's going to rank him at 30.
Speaker 3:Yes, the Andre Swift? Who is the other one? Who was the guy a couple of years ago? And right, oh, what was that guy's name on the lions. They draft him from Georgia or Auburn Was that guy's name? I'll look it up, oh don't worry.
Speaker 1:So no, but gosh the name of in the slip. It reminds me of the situation in the Jaguars, the Jaguars last year with Travis E Tien and the name is slipping my mind.
Speaker 5:He went to James Robinson.
Speaker 1:It reminds me of that situation in in Detroit and we all see how that ended up. Travis E Tien actually ended up about 15 last year in fantasy.
Speaker 5:No, but that's what I'm saying. He's not safe.
Speaker 1:Like it's not, I get where you're seeing Like the, I'm saying there's an opportunity, yes, yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 5:The range for Ron or Rondor Stevenson, just really like safe.
Speaker 1:So Marge gives you don't feel the same.
Speaker 3:Carry on Johnson.
Speaker 4:Carry on Johnson Receiver.
Speaker 5:So if you're going, if you're going like you're in one round, one and two, you're taking receivers, or one, two, three and you're, you're in the fourth round. It's like I got to get a running back. You don't want to shoot for the?
Speaker 1:stars because and he probably may not be there potentially Well.
Speaker 5:I'm just saying you're going to want someone who's just okay, I need someone.
Speaker 1:Consistent, consistent, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:Remondres your guy.
Speaker 1:I feel you. I misunderstood what you said there and I'm going to apologize for saying I feel you. I try not to say that. It's a very weird thing to say, especially in the way that I said it. Let's move on here. We're going to go to I feel you. I feel you.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 5:I sounded like a little bit like your.
Speaker 1:how do you say it? I feel you. I feel you. You're boys. How do you say it, Dude? Speaking of the dudes.
Speaker 3:Speaking of the dudes, the dudes favorite place to play DFS is underdog. Underdog is the easiest way to play fantasy sports draft your team and forget it. No sitting lineups or trades. So go ahead and go to underdog. Inter promo code dudes. They will match you up to $100. They got the puppy back. Jordan, the nice little $5 best ball tournament. Go, check that out. I think you're doing right now.
Speaker 5:I know I'm not doing right now, but I did three today. You know I did a got three done today in the $5. I'm going to try to put, I think, 20 teams in there. It's the fast puppies. So all fast drafts. Let's see how many it's going to see how much 19% full. So still got a lot of time.
Speaker 3:I need to do that 150 max.
Speaker 5:I figure I put 20 teams in there. Um, yeah, I mean shoot, I did like that. Honestly. You know it's really nice about these. You can do them with the gym, like we're going to work out in doing them on the treadmill, whatever. Whatever your cardio choice machine.
Speaker 3:You're doing the split machine.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know what you do over there. I'm saying, though, is, if you're using code dudes and you put on $100, you get $100 back that covers your puppy.
Speaker 5:That's 200. You can lose your puppy. You get 40 bucks 40, 40, 40 teams in the puppy If you want to boom or you get free from the from the promo money. Yeah, you get 20 free.
Speaker 1:That promo money baby.
Speaker 5:And then save the other hundred bucks for whatever you want.
Speaker 1:Friendship, yeah, potentially running rainy day, venmo paying for YouTube TV. All right, do you guys want to go 10 through one here, or do you want to go 10 through six? Like what do you just tell people that withdraw their money out?
Speaker 5:of underdog.
Speaker 1:No, I said, I said I suggested just making wise decisions with their underdog account. That's what I said I said gamble responsibly. I don't think I heard Trent say that as part of the ad. I probably should say that he probably should say game responsibly, so what I was doing is giving them options to be responsible with it.
Speaker 3:I don't want people's debt on my hands.
Speaker 1:And that's what I was trying to do?
Speaker 5:I was on your hand this is Phil's, Phil's way to do a promo.
Speaker 1:Hey guys, the pause of your money and take it right out, don't play it at all. I don't think I said that.
Speaker 4:I'm a guy that think you can use promo money and then take the promo money out. But like I just made a free $100, but you can't do that yeah.
Speaker 3:But hey, if you want to try it, go right ahead. Promo code dudes really helps us out.
Speaker 1:also, I was trying to do a Dave Ramsey situation there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:Just try to be Ramsey's not allowed to mention this Dave Ramsey and the dudes don't go together at all.
Speaker 1:Phil did he get in trouble, or something, or something.
Speaker 3:Oh, you didn't hear about that.
Speaker 1:Oh, is there something? No, I'm just kidding. I was like I don't think.
Speaker 5:Dave Ramsey would approve of my gambling habits. Oh, no, yeah, that's what I was saying, I was making a joke about it. But then when you say I was like.
Speaker 3:I was like, I was people he wouldn't have.
Speaker 1:The problem is is you can't throw out a celebrity or someone like that who you associate with, just you know, not sure what he is, dave Ramsey, a celebrity Like. I think he's a celebrity enough.
Speaker 5:I would call him famous.
Speaker 1:We have a new producer in the house, a recent high school graduate. Do you know who that is? Do you know who Dave Ramsey is? He has no idea. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5:I think it's like only in your circle, like the circle that someone was that's definitely something you don't hear about.
Speaker 4:After the year 2000. I'd expect him to do that.
Speaker 3:All right, that makes a sound weird, so let's just not throw that out there, guys.
Speaker 2:How does it make it sound weird?
Speaker 1:I don't know, so you're weird for thinking that sounds weird.
Speaker 4:You're making it sound weird by saying that All right.
Speaker 3:Get to the next rankings.
Speaker 1:Phil let's go 10 through five, let's do 10. Do you want to do 10 through five or do you want to go 10 through one? Because I think there's a lot to. I think there's because they get kind of muddy right here. So we could probably do 10 through one.
Speaker 3:Okay, what do you think about that? That's fine, that's fine Me.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, let's go through 10, through one. And you know what, jordan, you've been going like kind of in the middle sandwich. You know, sandwich between these two guys Never a fun thing, especially.
Speaker 5:Trent.
Speaker 3:It's exactly, you can see, between two honors, between two icebergs, all right, well, it's so cool in here, though it's so cool.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I feel like our pot is worse with with like being a little bit more relaxed. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like we had a conversation about haircut.
Speaker 1:We had a conversation about haircut.
Speaker 4:I think we need that grit you know what I'm saying Like that grit really We've lost it, we've lost it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like I don't feel right. But that sweat just dripping down my forehead.
Speaker 1:You look a lot better, but you feel different. Right, I do Like.
Speaker 3:I kind of used to say this, you have that glisten. Yeah, this used to be like one of my workouts Like, yeah, you know, I did a little fast on the pod, you know now I can't do that. You know what I mean. Maybe I got to quit drinking water.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm not eating for an hour. We have different conversation that we need to talk about.
Speaker 3:You've never heard of intermittent fasting. Come on, read a book.
Speaker 2:Read a book.
Speaker 1:All right If you're intermediate fasting, as you called. It is an hour. We need to have a conversation.
Speaker 5:Anyways, he said, he said no that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:He called it intermediate. I'm like that's, that's what it's called, it's intermediate fasting.
Speaker 3:Phil, it's a step in the right direction. No, it's intermittent fasting.
Speaker 1:Jordan, please go.
Speaker 5:Okay, so then I have Tony Pollard, I have Breeze Hall at nine, josh Jacobs at eight, najee Harris at seven, saquon at six, bijan at five, nick Chubb at four, austin Eckler at three, jonathan Taylor at two, christian McCaffrey at one.
Speaker 3:You want me to go next, Phil?
Speaker 1:Yeah, go ahead, Trent.
Speaker 3:I have Tony Pollard at 10. Breeze Hall at nine, saquon Barkley at eight, najee Harris at seven, jameer Gibbs at six, nick Chubb at five, austin Eckler at four, bijan Robinson at three, christian McCaffrey at two and Jonathan Taylor at one. I'm even a little worried about Saquon Barkley. What's going to happen there?
Speaker 1:Let's let Seth shut down the club here before you start getting into your.
Speaker 3:Seth is known for shutting things down.
Speaker 1:Let me hear it Seth.
Speaker 4:Tony Pollard at 10. Josh Jacobs at nine, najee Harris eight, derek Henry seven, nick Chubb six, saquon Barkley five, austin Eckler four oh sorry, yes, austin Eckler four. Jonathan Taylor three, bijan at two and CMC at one. I think I'm the highest on Bijan, but, trent, go ahead with what you're saying. Oh, you're just a.
Speaker 5:Saquon. Conchran, we are very high on Breeze Hall and Najee Harris compared to Consensus yes, we could have brought that up on our show too. I'm just looking at ESPN. They have Najee at 15 and Breeze Hall at 16.
Speaker 3:Whoa we all have them. I feel like that's low.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we all have them in the top 10.
Speaker 3:PFF has Najee at 12.
Speaker 4:I just think I just like the Jets overall. I think the Jets are just going to be a fun team to watch and I think Breeze Hall is going to be a partner. I just think.
Speaker 5:Aaron Rodgers isn't good so.
Speaker 4:Well, I think I'm going to die on
Speaker 1:that ban.
Speaker 5:I'm going to die on that hill this year. That, aaron Rodgers is over.
Speaker 3:Is washed Is not good. I would agree with your overrated thing.
Speaker 4:Like you just have to treat with them and you'll change your mind. Wait what no?
Speaker 5:the doctor's tree is what concerns me, to be honest.
Speaker 1:I'm seeing him as position rank running back 10. Where are you seeing that Trent For who Breeze Hall?
Speaker 3:I have him at running back 10 on.
Speaker 1:PFF Okay cool.
Speaker 5:I just wanted to make sure. I mean, there's guys on ESPN here that have him ranked at 20. It's crazy, but for the most part we're all pretty. So you Trent's real low on Josh Jacobs, we're pretty solid. I'm just trying to look at where.
Speaker 3:Derek Henry's 28, you know. So that's kind of at that age where things start falling apart.
Speaker 4:I think I'm the highest on him compared to you guys, you are, you guys are at 11. I'm at 7. I mean, if you listen to this, like I know, his body has had a ton of wear and tear. He had 1,500 yards and 13 touchdowns.
Speaker 5:They just have no he also had 400 receiving yards.
Speaker 1:And he's going that's all that's going. They're going to be doing, though, this year. Guys, it's kind of the same as the.
Speaker 3:Josh Jacobs argument.
Speaker 1:Like that's all they're going to be doing, unless you think Malik Willis Like I think there's a bigger.
Speaker 4:I think you can get hurt easier than Ramondry Stevenson. What?
Speaker 3:It's not Malik Willis. They just drafted a guy Like I guess, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:I don't think there's a legitimate thing. He might be still within a reasonable there's no argument that Derek Henry can finish, I think one or two, but I think he can easily finish at three or four, like he did last year at four.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean I'm, I can't Like, I'm a Derek.
Speaker 4:He had the most. He had the most attempts 349 attempts.
Speaker 3:I love Derek Henry. I'm just I'm more worried about the age Seth Because he's gotten hurt.
Speaker 4:I mean who knows?
Speaker 5:I mean I guess At some point he's going to break down At some point right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and like you look at Zeke, you look at Todd Gurley. Like it just seems like recency bias.
Speaker 5:It can happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah all of a sudden these running backs just drop off a cliff Like. Gone are the days of like yeah, but I guess.
Speaker 4:I guess I mean Jordan said it was going to be last year and I mean he finished at four, and I think what Jordan say out of the 10, right, I have top 10.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and who knows?
Speaker 4:That could happen this year. I just think I thought I moved him down to seven. You know, I think he's going to have some, I mean those 300-yard weeks, like he does.
Speaker 3:I mean I'm worried about, I'm worried about Eckler with his age too, but I know the volume of it.
Speaker 5:I think it's a different role, though it's a different type of volume A little more, yeah, a little more out of the space. I think it's a different type of volume. That's why I put him at four.
Speaker 4:It's like their team's healthy again and I don't think they're going to have the same sort of season to where he's going to get every single ball, every single ball.
Speaker 5:Trent, why are you so low on Zeke 1?
Speaker 3:I said contract thing as well. I was kind of blinded.
Speaker 5:But that's not the doing Like.
Speaker 4:I don't know. If they don't play, then he takes. He takes less money.
Speaker 3:They still don't know.
Speaker 4:I think he's willing to take less money.
Speaker 5:He's I can't Trent Like he's working out with Daniel Jones and stuff Like.
Speaker 1:Where do you have some sort of insight? I?
Speaker 4:have him at six, five and I have me at about five.
Speaker 5:I don't know, Honestly, we might be too low on Zeke 1. The guy that I can't leave I'm so high on him he ended at six last year.
Speaker 3:Jordo Six, yeah, and I feel like that was a quiet six last year for Zeke 1. No, Zeke 1 could be RB 1 this year.
Speaker 5:It wouldn't have shocked me at all, but the offense is going to be better.
Speaker 3:It's going to be better, but Zeke 1 also, but do you remember their he's 26. I thought he was older.
Speaker 1:Their schedule last year was I think he had probably one of the best schedules for running backs. Last year Zeke 1 didn't have any receiving touchdowns.
Speaker 4:If he has receiving touchdowns, he finishes within the top five easily. He's at six.
Speaker 3:And that's what surprises me. They had no pass catchers on that team, and he didn't get one receiving touchdown
Speaker 2:1300 yards.
Speaker 3:They gave him.
Speaker 4:They kind of took him off the field a little bit more, I thought, last year than any normal year, I think the thing is, is Daniel Jones was able to run in scrambling situations instead of dump it to Barclay, which I think other quarterbacks would do.
Speaker 5:You guys are higher on Bijan than me.
Speaker 4:I have Bijan at two and I'm kind of just hoping he has that crazy season just so we see Bijan everywhere. I think it'd just be really.
Speaker 3:Why have we not tried Bijan mustard on this pod Phil?
Speaker 5:It's not, is his own brand. Does he still have that, does he?
Speaker 3:have it really. He did when he's at Texas. That's one of his NIL deals. I did not know that.
Speaker 4:We need to buy his mustard brand and try it with pod.
Speaker 1:We absolutely need to do that.
Speaker 4:I'm pretty sure it was only popular in that Texas area. But Austin, yeah, I'd try it.
Speaker 5:It looked good on our table. Bijan Mustardson, the official Bijan of Bijan.
Speaker 1:So PFF again has him at position RB3, trent, yeah, and I have him at three also. So who are you seeing, hi Jordan?
Speaker 5:Holy cow Costs 50 bucks for a bottle of his mustard.
Speaker 4:I think that's a big bottle Gordon. Yeah, it's like it's about half the size of a bottle.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a big Two bottles for 16 bucks.
Speaker 1:That was a giant.
Speaker 4:I was like, wow, that's a limited edition.
Speaker 5:OK, so yeah, Bijan's fine. I just it's hard Like I. The guy that I'm really high on and I can't believe it is Nick Chubb, Because he's like total anti, like how I like my running backs.
Speaker 3:I feel the same way as you.
Speaker 5:But here's the thing, and this is why I like him so much I am not sold on to Sean Watson, like you guys know. Yep, and it's a very similar. He's the Remandry Stevenson of this tier for me. Nick Chubb, jerome Ford, who does exactly what Nick Chubb does Demetric Felton John Kelly.
Speaker 4:I don't know who John Kelly is.
Speaker 5:He was with the Rams for a while. Preseason guy Demetric Felton yeah.
Speaker 3:But he's like a. That's my boy.
Speaker 5:He's like a pass catcher, like he's changed his pace back, like he's not taking. There's no cream hunt, there's no Shoot. They even had someone else, I feel like last year, and maybe it was Jerome Ford, like we're talking about. I just don't see how he doesn't just touch the ball a ton.
Speaker 3:In that offense and he's just and he caught passes last year. He hasn't had that whole. He hasn't quite been like that RB1 type guy, but he has just been super consistent, Like he's always top 10. And it's even in half point right and he's just an in-between tackles runner. He's probably the best pure runner in the NFL. But yeah, I like Nick Chubb. What do you think Nick Chubb's gonna go and draft second round Mid-second?
Speaker 4:I think he's gonna.
Speaker 5:Yeah, probably yeah, so Nick Chubb had.
Speaker 4:It's not as many as you think.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's not 239.
Speaker 4:It's actually low.
Speaker 5:But 27 for 239. But it was his highest in three years 12 rushing TDs 12 rushing yeah.
Speaker 3:His yards is up there.
Speaker 4:It's 53 yards.
Speaker 5:He's just, he's good and he's only his fifth year, sixth year in the league.
Speaker 4:Only three guys had Didn't miss a game last year.
Speaker 5:I just think his volume is very safe For me. He's like the Remandry Stevenson. He's safe. He doesn't have the concerns like he's safe for the Neckler. He's safer than Bijan. He's safer than Saekwann.
Speaker 3:He's safer than Najee. You think you'll have him on any teams, jordan, it just doesn't seem like the type of guy that you drafted, in my opinion.
Speaker 5:I like him this year.
Speaker 3:And you like where he's going.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I like him.
Speaker 3:You want to talk about me having Jonathan Taylor above CMC. Yeah, let's hear about that.
Speaker 4:Especially you having them. You had them there last year.
Speaker 1:So I was trying to look at some yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 5:You do have Jonathan Taylor one. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3:I just think that that offensive line is good and I he's got to bounce back. Like last year he was so bad. Like he was, he was terrible. Like he's a comeback healthy, I quit it. Shock you guys If Jonathan Taylor was the RB one over CMC, like I don't think. It's that out of the question to have that there with Indianapolis young quarterback. I don't know if they're going to do the read option there, what exactly they're going to do, but I could definitely see Jonathan Taylor having a huge bounce back with how good that offensive line is and all that stuff. I like you, Richard, since maybe not the most reliable guy and they're going to ease Richardson into it. But the only concern is teams, just don't go a, guys in the box and make Richardson throw or make they're going to make him like they've done that to him before, though who Uh, Jonathan Taylor right.
Speaker 5:Different quarterback though. Like this guy, literally Anthony Richardson, like I get it. He's extremely talented, but can he make the intermediate throws? Can he make? I know he?
Speaker 3:has a, so you're saying even they might put more than eight in the box. Really?
Speaker 5:It's just. It's just a different. Like John Taylor has never played with a quarterback, like Anthony Richardson either yeah. He's played with who he's played with.
Speaker 3:Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz.
Speaker 5:Carson Wentz. Is that Jacobi Berset?
Speaker 2:Jacobi yeah.
Speaker 5:I mean, you are not like Anthony Richardson, so um he had to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he started out week one, he was RB two, and then week 10, he was RB one and then he just. Other than that, he was absolutely terrible last year.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean, I think the volume's going to be there for sure. I just think CMC is safer than Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about CMC a little bit. Like he, he made the switch over to San Francisco, and what game was it? 10?
Speaker 5:earlier than that, I feel like was it earlier than that.
Speaker 1:Um nine or six. Might have been six. So with Trey Lance there or maybe Sam Darnold being the quarterback, do you think that changed? Sam Darnold was the quarterback that he had in Carolina.
Speaker 5:I believe he might be pretty.
Speaker 4:I don't know who the quarterbacks going to be I think, regardless of what quarterback it is, I think they can throw to a running back.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Absolutely, If you can't throw to a running back. I mean, look at, uh, Ben Rothesburger with that great season week seven was first, so hear me out though that season with. Naja Harris you're right.
Speaker 1:Coming off injury, though, he finished 17, week two, five, week three, 21, week, four, six, week five, nine, then he had a top five finish week seven, 35, and then week eight, three, and then it really started to improve as he got later, as he had Brock pretty as his quarterback in those final games. So also um and Brock pretty loved him.
Speaker 4:I feel like Elijah Mitchell also got hurt.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 4:So that also makes me a little nervous is yeah, elijah Mitchell is a good player too, but he's going to eat into some of this volume. But I still think CMC is going to have a top three finish. I don't know if you will eat into his volume but when Elijah Mitchell was playing with him but that's also CMC is like he was still learning the playbook when Elijah Mitchell was taking some of this stuff.
Speaker 3:I think they might try to keep it.
Speaker 4:See like if the game's got a help CMC off the field, they also. They also have Debo. We didn't talk about Debo, but I mean that's kind of an interesting thing to think about too, cause when Debo, debo was also hurt, which gave more volume to CMC. When Debo was playing, he was scoring a couple of rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 5:You're saying that, assuming that the night is going to be good, right? So you think that?
Speaker 3:I think they're not going to be good.
Speaker 5:I don't know.
Speaker 3:I like. I think everything I'm hearing on night is it's like man, if we have our quarterback, we might want this.
Speaker 5:If we went out of quarterback, we won our Super Bowl Like if our quarterback throw yeah, like they like I think it's good You're acting like they're going to have a better quarterback this year. They're not pretty, I guess why CMC is safe.
Speaker 1:You don't think pretty could have gotten them a little bit farther if his arm wasn't completely shot?
Speaker 5:Okay, but he's coming off, tommy John, and has to throw, and you don't like Tray.
Speaker 3:Lance, I'm not gonna, I can't.
Speaker 5:I'm not saying they're not going to be good, but you're acting like they're just going to be up 20 and every year saying they're going to bring them out of the game If games are close. Cmc is not coming out of the game.
Speaker 4:So like let me say this too CMC also has the seventh easiest running backs.
Speaker 1:That's what I was about to look up, thank you.
Speaker 4:Like strength of schedule is ranked at easy, the seventh easiest for running back rank, which is a big deal.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 4:So like compared to the other guys who are having, like Derek Henry's at four, fourth easiest. I mean he's playing in that, in that garbage.
Speaker 2:I just don't see, I don't see many.
Speaker 5:I'm looking at the nine year schedule. I don't see many games where I think they blow a team out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're they're, they're pretty great, and I think if they don't, blow a team out, I think maybe there's going to be in the game all the time, maybe buccaneers Rams.
Speaker 5:I mean, yeah, I mean I'm not maybe the Rams. Cardinals, like that's, that's like so three to four games and the reality is I'm sure they're not up 20 and all four of those games. So I mean they have a tough schedule. They got. They got the Steelers, they got the Giants. They did, yeah, they got the guys Vikings, browns, jags, bengals, where's that Cowboys game out? That is in San Francisco. It's. It looks like it's a preseason evening game.
Speaker 3:I'm just dial it up. You need to go.
Speaker 5:Ravens. Yeah, eagles, they don't have the easiest schedule in the world. What is that? It's October 8th. What is the?
Speaker 3:eighth Trent, looking at my calendar here no, I don't know, let me see, it's a Monday, it's a.
Speaker 5:Monday night game, no Sunday night, sunday night, sorry, sunday night. The pod holds me back from going to Senate football.
Speaker 3:I do it for the listeners.
Speaker 5:To do one from the stadium.
Speaker 4:This is a this is going to play into what Trent was saying. I know that we're kind of finished with our like our rankings, but DeAndre Swift has the the hardest running back schedule 32.
Speaker 3:Usually when teams go to the Super Bowl they get a harder schedule.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm just saying those are also based off last year's and we know that defenses can be very like volatile year to year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct.
Speaker 5:I mean you can have a really good defense one year and the defense can be not as good as next year.
Speaker 1:Yep, all right. Well, I think that's about it in terms of our rankings there. We got it all in, talked about it decent amount. Do we want to switch over to Divas? You want to get another ad read?
Speaker 4:No, we're ad reads we're good, we're good on ad reads we're good, we want to switch over to Divas.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of struggling in terms of Divas. I know Trent has a whole list of things.
Speaker 4:It's kind of hard when you like aren't at the weekend, yet we're not so I have a decent one, I think do you get you?
Speaker 3:Is that where you get all your?
Speaker 4:Divas Seth. Well, I think I just have usually have three more days to kind of experience any Divas and your time where you're off the, you're off work and you're out in the wild.
Speaker 1:Basically is what you're saying.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know, I have three more days left, you know usually the freaks come out on the weekends, is what you're saying? Or I mean, I just have three more days to like experience something to make me think about it. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Jordan. What are you I?
Speaker 5:don't want to hear about Seth's experiment Every time you say a good one, it makes me a little bit nervous, but so you know, I was on the treadmill the other day and I was let's clap it up for that.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you're value. I don't think this is a new year's resolution. I think Jordan's intermediate fasting, I think.
Speaker 4:Jordan's been running on the treadmill for a long time, so, yeah, I'm sorry about that. But no, and so there's the wind, oh your wild time.
Speaker 5:So you? So there's the window of like you look out, and there's people that get out of their cars to go to the gym you know, yeah, people that take a hit of their vape pin before they walk in the gym. Walk into the gym.
Speaker 1:That's actually a good one. You're a diva, like yeah, like what?
Speaker 5:are you doing Like?
Speaker 4:if they're just trying to get that like real quick, like whoo, like feeling with that.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's preworkout, maybe it's preworkout Bump, that little extra bump, I don't know, maybe they're just dilating.
Speaker 4:They're just ready to pump some.
Speaker 5:I don't even see people like take a smoke cigarette. You know it's like, it's the same thing, like the cigarette, the vape pin before, like. But the funniest thing to me is like you guys who take the real puff out of their vape pin before they walk in the door to go get a workout.
Speaker 1:And it's like what is?
Speaker 5:he's very counterproductive to me.
Speaker 1:What is different between that and someone chewing tobacco while they work out?
Speaker 5:on the treadmill.
Speaker 3:On the treadmill. What?
Speaker 5:do you do. It's the same exact thing. So you know, I think.
Speaker 4:I think one affects your lungs and the other one doesn't.
Speaker 5:That's also true. It just seems like if you're going to work out, you care about, like your health, and to me, like hitting the vape pin is not the most healthy thing to do in the world.
Speaker 1:Where do you draw the line though? Like shotgunning, like a Coors, right before you walk?
Speaker 5:in, I would say the same thing about that, that'd be, legendary?
Speaker 1:Honestly, no, it would not. I mean right before they walk in. Honestly, I think the vape pin is worst thing.
Speaker 5:Didn't chug it.
Speaker 1:I actually agree with that. Coors probably has, like some I don't know, trading qualities.
Speaker 4:Would you guys want to drink beer before?
Speaker 1:you run out of treadmills, I'd rather.
Speaker 4:I'd rather hit a vape before I drink, chug a beer before I run out of treadmills.
Speaker 5:You should have said like a shot, like taking a shot, there's been a better thing, like some.
Speaker 1:Tula.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I shot like tequila before you walk. I think that. And the vape pin is very similar Like.
Speaker 4:I think they're both dumb. I think they're both bad. They're not Like that's actually good.
Speaker 1:Do they blow? Do they blow the vape in as they're walking in, or is it just like a like and then like they blow it?
Speaker 5:out as they blow it out. They don't bring it in. They don't bring it in, but they're bringing their vape pin into the gym with them because it's not like they're taking it, putting it back in their car.
Speaker 1:All right, let me ask you a question. I have done this before. There was a person vaping in a restaurant that I was next to. I was. It was like a restaurant, bar and grill type situation, like a pub.
Speaker 4:You're not supposed to do this by inside.
Speaker 1:You're not supposed to do those inside right and most people in a bar setting like they'll like they kind of think they can get it, they don't. Yeah, and so this guy started lighting, like just dialing up the vape pin, and so I'm like dude, like you outside or inside inside? And so I'm like and he was like trying to be sneaky about it and I'm like this is super annoying and it was bothering me because, like I don't want to, I'm like dude, like stop doing that. And he was super nice about it. Like I said it politely, I'm like hey man, like I don't really want to smell your vape pin in a nicer word, like please stop doing that. And he was like dude, I'm so sorry, like whatever, whatever. But let's say you're in the gym, right, and there is a dude just in there vaping away.
Speaker 5:Are you gonna train? Are you good? The good thing is I don't think it would happen in that gym, but yeah, I if they were like next to me. I don't think I can handle it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Especially on the treadmill. But if they're just like out doing pull ups in the back, are you going to say anything?
Speaker 5:I mean if I can't really see it. I mean no like.
Speaker 4:But if he's not been near you, it's now.
Speaker 5:that'd be real diva If you were doing a hit the vape pin during the middle, in between, in between wraps it depends the smell Like.
Speaker 3:maybe it's like sweet watermelons.
Speaker 1:No, it could be C4 infused, the creatine.
Speaker 4:So I said it could be pretty workout smoke C4. The C4.
Speaker 3:The not the bombs, the pre-workout, no, this he knows.
Speaker 4:I'm clear.
Speaker 2:He knows.
Speaker 4:He's just blown you dents.
Speaker 2:I hate it when he calls people done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, when he says it to you it's accurate.
Speaker 5:But I believe that was a solid.
Speaker 3:That was actually great. That's good, that's good. Let's talk about that Blooming right before our eyes.
Speaker 1:Running in a good yeah.
Speaker 3:What did you say?
Speaker 1:He's blooming right before our eyes.
Speaker 5:All right, let's see you.
Speaker 3:What you what type of? I have one, but it's probably going to fin set. Okay, people who watch anime, I don't watch.
Speaker 2:I mean, I said you know why don't you just go out and look at?
Speaker 4:anime guy Don't watch anime.
Speaker 3:Okay, my bad, I figured you did so good we're on the we're on the same team. You're obsessed with nerd, so you probably want the anime.
Speaker 1:Anime is the worst, you got all the hand moving and you know the bad subtitles the super long titles, like all kinds of you watch anime.
Speaker 3:How do you know that?
Speaker 5:I know someone who wants to be an anime. I know that.
Speaker 3:I know someone who watches it and likes it and I like watch like 10 seconds of it and I was like this is weird man and it's very much in pop culture these days.
Speaker 1:Oh and Jamal Williams is wearing. Would you consider what Jamal, that thing, that Jamal was? Yeah, it was a no, no, it's an anime thing, right, I don't know.
Speaker 3:See the thing is a case proven anime watcher I have. I have friends that like.
Speaker 4:I have friends that like anime and let me say that that has become more. It's it's usually Japanese or Asian culture and now it's become more mainstream American culture, like it's come over a lot, and it's weird. Actually I have say I have. I have watched anime, but they were short. It was Star Wars. It was Star Wars, it was Star Wars anime. So is that like on Disney plus, yeah, disney plus yeah, and there's all in English, so okay, I have.
Speaker 3:Were you reading or was it in English?
Speaker 1:No, it was in English Like okay, okay, like you didn't have to, and is it like?
Speaker 5:It's hard for him to do.
Speaker 4:Not all cartoons are considered anime either. No, I agree with that.
Speaker 3:But yeah, anime it's like they're doing all the weird hand signals like Nardo stuff, like I don't know I like that. I'm sure you've never watched it before, did you? Watch Pokemon, I did watch.
Speaker 1:Pokemon. I know that, yeah, but I was in, like I was in first grade.
Speaker 5:I think it was made in Japan. It is, it is anime, it is anime so you're saying everything made in Japan is considered anime.
Speaker 4:No, no, I answered this. It's animated. It's most likely anime. If it's animated in Japan, it's likely.
Speaker 3:There's like, that is the stuff they consume over there.
Speaker 4:It's like weird.
Speaker 3:It's like weird graphics, but it's kind of cool because everything's like no, they can make really good graphics now, but anime is a little bit more cartoonish, which I guess is cool.
Speaker 1:But it's like comic bookish a little bit, right, yeah.
Speaker 4:Or slightly comic bookish.
Speaker 5:All right, take it back Pokemon's anime.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's the look at it.
Speaker 3:I knew it was anime, but but it's like cool anime I don't know, it's mainstream.
Speaker 4:That's why.
Speaker 1:But like the Israel to Sonia, he's super into that, didn't he do like a full on dance when he came out like an anime type deal?
Speaker 5:I wouldn't know, I don't know, I don't know what the anime is, it's popular and especially in like this younger generation.
Speaker 4:Like a ton of kids will watch that over like American.
Speaker 5:Which are you like in general?
Speaker 3:I grew up liking cartoons, but I think cartoons and anime are different, like Scooby Doo and anime different like Bugs Bunny, that you can learn a lot from.
Speaker 5:Are you talking about Smartness? Are you talking about adults who like anime or kids who like anime? I'm talking more adults, so I think adults who watch cartoons in general are divas.
Speaker 3:Like I'm thinking people over the age of like. I don't know if I'd want my kids to watch anime. It seems weird. I'm not talking about Pokemon, I've not been exposed enough. It looks like weird.
Speaker 1:What about? What about SpongeBob?
Speaker 3:SpongeBob is not anime. You can learn good humor. No, SpongeBob is no, you have.
Speaker 1:I do not agree with that. I feel like you have brain cells that are slowly going if you're fully indulging in.
Speaker 5:You should not be adult watching.
Speaker 1:There's some good stuff in there, man. There are good stuff. I can't get into it.
Speaker 4:I like that's just like one that I'm just like during the during the also doesn't like to laugh when you watch his TV.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true. That's a fair. We got a guy back here in the back. Producer. Yeah, are people who watch anime in high school or college weird? For the most part, he's saying no. This guy's an anime guy.
Speaker 4:That's right. So you're the weird one. It's mainstream, a lot of people would watch it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I think it's weird. Do you watch it?
Speaker 1:So you can't get into it. Oh, he's saying it. What used to be on Netflix and he used to watch it the NAR to it.
Speaker 5:Is that the one, nardo or whatever? That's the one people like to watch. I tried to watch that and I just couldn't, I couldn't.
Speaker 4:It was just like what did. I say no, it's just. I tried, but I didn't like it.
Speaker 5:Why try?
Speaker 4:Because I heard it was good.
Speaker 1:So yeah, but he's just someone probably said hey, check out this new show. And then he's like he started watching it.
Speaker 3:He's like oh wait, I'm not a freak. You know, that's probably what happened, right Seth. No, I just couldn't get it. I hope that I hope that I don't care. I don't know, I'll just delete the video.
Speaker 1:So you have, you, have you even tried to watch some of it Not since Pokemon in first grade, I've not watched the anime. Would you watch Pokemon again?
Speaker 3:No, no, I wouldn't, I would not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd never watched Pokemon. I got into their cars Modernly. I stopped getting into them when I traded.
Speaker 3:When Furbys came out, you quit trading Pokemon cards. I traded.
Speaker 1:No, get this story. I traded a kid at.
Speaker 3:Pikachu, don't go to the field.
Speaker 1:I traded Pikachu for a Charizard. What? What are you thinking? No, no, I got a Charizard. Oh, okay, I got the Charizard, which I felt like was a pretty good trade, and I didn't. Then his mom called my mom and made me give it back.
Speaker 2:This is a story that no one can ever about that is a diva, that is a diva right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like kid willing he trades his property for your property, and I was like you should have said no, and I wasn't like pulling the, I wasn't like, I was like hey man Software year was tough for. Phil. I was like hey, man, do you want? Like you're in need of a Pikachu, like I like that Charizard.
Speaker 3:Totally just sold this guy. No, it was a fair deal.
Speaker 1:It was a fair deal. At the end of the day, there was nothing hidden.
Speaker 4:He, you're not educated. That's like saying, hey train, here's a dollar for my TV and Trent doesn't know.
Speaker 1:No, no, seth. This is the thing. The guy had more Pokemon cards than me. I think he just had a surplus of Charizards and he was feeling like whose mom is going to like his mom, this guy's mom.
Speaker 4:Why would you, why would the mom care about?
Speaker 1:I remember the card for like 80 bucks. The problem is it was when we had phones on the wall right and as soon as our, our phone rang at like six, 30 in the evening, like I was just like I knew I had done that deal. I think I had done that deal on the bus on like the way home and I was like I just in my my heart of hearts knew it was his mom calling mine and I don't know why he never said anything. The deal was done and sure enough. As soon as we got off the phone my mom was like you need to take that card back tomorrow. You have to give it.
Speaker 3:I just kept saying you forgot or something, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I was just. I think I wasn't smart enough to say anything. I was just like I felt like I had a good, a good deal that was too good to be true, and then I had to give it back to the kid.
Speaker 3:You definitely did, definitely did, all right.
Speaker 1:That's a good trade, though, don't you think For you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's like that would not go through in a fantasy football league. That would get vetoed.
Speaker 1:It might be my career. Well, maybe that was what his mom did. She vetoed it, sure.
Speaker 3:Commissioner, mom, okay, anyways, I think that kind of does it. Anything else you guys want to add? Are we good, phil, you don't got anything. No, thanks, buddy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I guess we kind of gave yours up, you know, when you were getting your hair cut while you were playing Angry Birds at the barber shop. But that about does it, guys. Thanks for tuning in. As always, remember, don't be rude, share the dudes and, as always, take care.
Speaker 2:This has been another episode of the fantasy football dudes podcast. Remember to rate, review and follow. For more information, go to wwwthefantasyfootballdudescom and remember we are sorry for absolutely nothing.
Listen On